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Perio Protect – Is it right for you?

Do you have gingivitis or periodontal disease? There is a product on the market called Perio Protect and it’s supposedly one of the latest and greatest tools for helping you fight the battle against gum disease. But it’s not cheap.  And if your dentist is suggesting you try Perio Protect, you may want to do a little homework on the subject. So before you fork over the big $$$ read this honest Perio Protect review to see if this product is right for you. Here is my experience with Perio Protect…

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Why I Needed Perio Protect

I have managed to go through my entire 42 years on this planet without having one cavity in my entire life. Woohoo! But I can’t celebrate too much. Because while I have never had a cavity, I have been unfortunate enough to have something which might be even worse. Advanced periodontal disease.

I did not get this disease overnight and it’s all my fault.

In my early teens I had to wear orthodontic braces to fix my overbite and buck teeth. They were the old fashioned metal and rubber band kind and they made brushing and flossing really difficult. Ok, who am I kidding – I never flossed. Since it was so hard to clean my teeth while wearing braces, my gums started to become puffy and swollen and they also bled.

I had to have my first deep cleaning when I was 15 which is much worse than it sounds. Basically they have to inject your gums with Novocaine and use lots of noisy and sharp tools to clean underneath the gums. It’s not a fun experience.

Braces make cleaning your teeth a bitch.
Braces make cleaning your teeth a bitch.

In my mid 20s the gingivitis turned into periodontal disease. I had to endure several more deep cleanings as the “pockets” between my gums were getting worse. Then once I hit my 30s, during a routine dental check up, the dentist looked at my X-rays and was shaking his head. He kept saying “Oh my my ” over and over.  I was like WHAT?! He said that I was one of the youngest patients he has ever had to have such significant bone loss. I was like bone loss? What does that mean? I was not prepared for what I was about to hear.

I have loose teeth!

No. This can’t be happening! The thought of losing my front teeth has me terrified. I have nightmares about it and what really sucks is that is a REAL possibility – not just a bad dream. I can’t afford to have implants and I don’t want to wear dentures. So ever since then, I have been brushing and flossing my teeth religiously and see a dentist every six months.

I don't want to lose my teeth!
I have nightmares about looking like this guy.

What’s even more fun is my dentist calls me a “Tartar Magnet” meaning that I have an issue where tartar (calculus) builds up on my teeth very quickly if I don’t keep it under control. I’m not going to get into what Tartar is in this post, so if you want to know more you can click this link.

Alas, they said it is often genetic. Some people have problems with rotting teeth, other people have problems with gum disease. I happen to be one of the latter and I honestly don’t know which is worse.

But my dentist said there is a new product on the market that he thinks I would be a perfect candidate for. It’s called Perio Protect and it is supposed to control bacteria and even reverse bone degeneration. I was like, this product sounds amazing! Tell me more!

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What is Perio Protect?

According to the manufacturer :

Perio Protect® is a comprehensive treatment approach that combines professional cleanings with a special, comfortable tray delivery of medication that you use at home between office visits. The Perio Tray® by Perio Protect is similar to a mouth-guard, but it has a special sealing system to deliver medication below the gums. You put medication in the tray and wear it for a few minutes a day.

Medicine delivered in a tray that you just have to wear in your mouth a few times a day? Easy! No sweat! And there is the added bonus of whitening due to the peroxide medicine that you use with the trays. Sweet!

Perio Protect Trays and Gel
Perio Protect Trays and Gel

*You can not use just any trays for Perio Protect such as a mouth guard, or Invisalign. The trays are specifically designed to cover up the gum line so that the medicine gets into every nook and cranny.

But you also have to be dedicated. I was told I would have to use this product 4 times a day for 15 mins at a time. You can’t just leave it in your mouth for an hour. You have to remove the trays, rinse them out, then reapply the medicine and leave in your mouth for 15 mins each time. Every day. Suck it up buttercup, we can do this. I’ll make it work somehow.

I asked my dentist how much it would cost, they said it was not covered by my insurance (shocker) so it would cost $650 for the trays and then I would have to get the medication separately. $650 is a lot of money. But if this would save my teeth without having to get surgery or dentures, I was willing to give it a try. The Perio Protect is cheaper than the alternatives and of course better than losing my teeth!

My dentist is very convincing.
My dentist is very convincing.

I patiently waited to get my tax return that year and planned to use some of my refund on the Perio Protect treatment. But I had several months to wait, so during that time I went online to read the reviews and do a little research on the subject. And the weird thing is I did not see many reviews from actual patients. However, I DID see many reviews from dentists websites. That should have been a little warning sign and I should have kind of taken that into account before committing to trying this product. Hence, this is why I’m writing this for YOU!

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My First Experience with Perio Protect

The first thing you need to do is have molds taken of your teeth. This process kind of freaks me out. I had flashbacks to when I had to get my braces and almost suffocated from the clay they had shoved into my mouth filling up the back of my throat, eyes bugging out of my head.

I expressed my fear to the hygienist taking the mold and she said don’t worry, this doesn’t take nearly as long. And she was right. The bottom mold was first and it was quick and easy.

Taking molds of my teeth makes me panic!
Taking molds of my teeth make me panic!

But then came the scary one. The top mold.

I wasn’t going to panic. It would all be over soon…

I closed my eyes and tried to relax while breathing out of my nose trying not to think about that clay slowly filling up the roof of my mouth inching toward the back of my throat. If I would have inhaled through my mouth, it could have literally killed me! About 2 mins later, she removed the cast. And it was no good. She had to do it again. Dammit.

Try #2 – Ok, I can do this. Breath in and out through the nose. Picture myself with perfect healthy teeth. Two mins later, the mold pops off. And again it was no good. F*ck! I was starting to get irritated. But I just kept thinking to myself this is for my own good. I will not go through life with missing teeth. Here we go again…

Try #3 – Do not be discouraged. It will all be over soon. Two mins later, she pops off the mold. And again, it cracked. By this time, I was getting pretty mad. I told her that if we can’t get it right on the 4th try, that I would like someone else to do it. She apologized and said she thinks she knows what happened (whatever that means) and will get it right this time. This better be the last one…

This is how I looked after the 3rd try.
This is how I looked after the 3rd try.

Try #4 – Thinking happy thoughts. Beautiful white teeth…Pop! She removes the mold and thinks it will work. Thank goodness! It took all of my power and strength not to have an anxiety attack for the last half an hour.

Now I just have to go to the front desk and fork over the cash, wait 2 weeks for my trays to be ready, and have them order the medicine. Cool.

So a week or two goes by and I get a call from the dentist. “Melanie, we need you to come back in to redo your molds. The one we sent over cracked”.  Are you freaking kidding me?! $#@*!!! I told the dentist that I wanted a different person to do it this time. I did not want to go through that whole shenanigan again. This time I had a different girl do the mold for me and she got it right on the first try. Thank the universe!

Another 2 weeks go by and I get my Perio Protect kit from the dentist. It came in a cute box with a little plastic case for the trays and space for the tube of Perio Gel and your toothbrush. And then I was informed that it would be another $70 for the medicine. $20 for the gel and $50 for the medicine. Every 2 months. *Headslap* I didn’t really take that into consideration. But I am committed. We are doing this!

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What Came with the Perio Protect Kit

Perio Protect Kit
Perio Protect Kit

Since I was using it for bone loss, I had to get a 3oz tube of Periogel (a hydrogen peroxide-based gel used to kill disease-carrying bacteria, while promoting and supporting the reduction and the growth of beneficial bacteria), a glass bottle of Vibramycin a.k.a. Doxycycline – supposedly the magic ingredient for regrowing bone, a few plastic syringes, and some teeny tiny brushes.


How to Use Perio Protect

To use Perio Protect, you just cut the tip of the Periogel tube and put a few tiny dots of the gel into the tray. Then you shake up the Vibramycin and fill up the syringe with a very small amount and just place about 3 dots of the liquid into each tray. Then you use the brushes to mix everything together and spread it along the inside of the trays.

If you can taste the product, you used too much – which I did the first few weeks. It tastes nasty and I had to get up to spit every 5 minutes. After a while I learned that you really only need a super tiny amount of product – you don’t need to fill every crevice of the mold. Just a dot every few teeth.

This is what the trays look like in your mouth
This is what the trays look like in your mouth

The Vibramycin is kind of gross. It’s extremely sticky and when I shook it up, it leaked out from under the cap and became a gooey mess. I actually ended up losing a lot of product. This gook cost me $50. Every drop was precious! So when it came time to get the product refilled, I asked if I could get a different bottle since mine leaked. They said the only other option was a plastic one that has a little hole at the top for the syringe. This was a much better choice! You just put the syringe in the hole, tilt the bottle and fill it up. Much less mess.

You have to wear the trays 15 mins at a time 4x a day.
You have to wear the trays 15 mins at a time 4x a day.

I didn’t want to take the whole kit to work with me so I had to figure out exactly what time I could use the Perio Protect. What I did was use it first thing in the morning while I was getting ready for work. Then after I was done eating for the night around 9pm, I would do the procedure 3 times in a row for 15 mins at a time. It would take about an hour in total (for rinsing and refilling the trays).

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How Did Perio Protect Work for Me?

After about 3-4 months of using the product I began to notice something that freaked me out a little bit. I had this brown/black gunk between my teeth especially in the back. I was like WTF is THAT?! It literally looked like I was eating poop. I still brushed and flossed twice a day so I was baffled. I thought this was supposed to whiten my teeth? What is going on?

Perio Protect stained my teeth
My yucky stained teeth

I went home and looked at my syringes and lo and behold the tips of the syringes were stained dark brown too. It was then that I knew it was from the Perio Protect. I also looked at the plastic kit that I used to store my trays. The bottom of the case was black. OMG so gross! *Tip – If you dry your trays before putting them away this will help keep the gunk away.

The stained syringe tip. And before you ask, yes I washed it after every use.
The stained syringe tip. And before you ask, yes I washed it after every use.

Then I did a Google search and looked up “Perio Protect Stained Teeth” and other similar searches and only found one hit with a patient sharing a similar problem. Are we two seriously the only ones who experienced this?

Fortunately I found a product online that helped remove much of the stains called Dr. Whitening Nano Whitening Strips (click here see my review) which was a great temporary fix.

Dr. Whitening Nano Whitening Bush After Photo
After using Dr. Whitening Nano White Strips – But some of the stains are still there.

Perio Protect 6 Month Check Up

At my 6 month dental check up, I told them about the stains I was experiencing and they said it is because of the Vibramycin. I really wish I was told about this up front. But the good news is, I didn’t have any tartar for them to scrape away and my gum pockets had been reduced.

They did have to scrape away those nasty brown stains, which fortunately were removed from a thorough dental cleaning. But the big question was are my teeth tightening up? The answer was unfortunately no. Consequently, I was told that I might have to use the product for another year (18 months total) before I would start seeing results.

I figured had already invested $650 for the trays plus $70 every 2 months for the medicine. But I was going to stick with it. I was going to deal with the stains. I was going to deal with the inconvenience of skipping my late night snacks to wear the trays every evening. I was going to keep my teeth!


Perio Protect 12 Month Check Up

Another 6 months go by. I had gotten tired of using the trays 4 times a day. Some nights I would forget to put them in until it was too late and I just didn’t have the time to wear them that long before bed. I started using the trays 3x a day instead of 4.Dental check up

The cost of my medication went up also. The Periogel was up to $26 and the Vibramycin went up to $60. At my 12 month appointment I asked if they saw any improvement. Unfortunately my pockets got deep in a few spots again and I was still dealing with the stains. My teeth were still loose. But I was not ready to give up so I kept at it.


Perio Protect 18 Month Check Up

At my 18 month appointment I told the dentist that if my teeth aren’t getting any better I was pretty much done. She checked the movement of my teeth and they were still loose with no improvement.

I wish my teeth and gums were this healthy.
I wish my teeth and gums were this healthy.

It was then that I made up my mind. I was over it. She agreed with me. She said that she has had patients who have used the product for 2 years and have not seen any improvement in regrowing the bone. The only thing to do is to have periodontal surgery or she suggested getting a permanent retainer to keep my teeth in place.

I’m tired and broke, and a retainer would make it impossible to floss. It is not really an option. Needless to say, I felt defeated.


How Much Perio Protect Cost Me

Overall, this is what I ended up spending on Perio Protect:

$650 for the trays
$210 on medicine for the 1st 6 months ($70 every other month)
$516 on medicine for the last 12 months (when the price went up)
Total spent over 18 months = $1376

Keep in mind, this was the cost from my dentist here in Phoenix, AZ. How much Perio Protect will cost will probably vary from place to place.


Final Results

  • No change in bone loss.
  • Reduced my gum pockets and overall health of my gums.
  • Kept tartar away the entire time. 

I do plan to stick with using the trays! Just this time with the Periogel only. It’s only $26 every two months and it has whitened my teeth quite a bit when using it alone. Since I don’t have to use it 3-4 times a day, the product will last much longer. I am hopeful that this will help keep the tartar away and keep my gums healthy. We’ll know at my next check up!

So if your dentist recommends that you try Perio Protect, I hope that you have found this review useful. If you have gingivitis or early stage periodontal disease, it would probably be really beneficial for you. But if you are trying to use it to regrow bone, all I can say is it didn’t work for me. I kind of feel like a sucker.


What’s next?

I am going to keep fighting to keep my teeth for as long as possible. I am going to keep brushing and flossing every day and visit my dentist every 6 months. But if my teeth get any looser, I’m going to go straight to a periodontist to get a quote for surgery. I’m already making plans for my tax refund. 🙁

Have you ever heard of or tried Perio Protect? What do you think of it? What are your dental horror stories? Leave me a comment and let me know!


Disclosure: I was not compensated for writing this post and I paid for this product with my own money, but it does contains affiliate links which means I may be compensated a small amount if you click through and purchase. Full disclosure policy here.**

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69 Comments

  1. staciesayzso staciesayzso

    Oh my gosh, I can so relate to this. The dentist can be so frustrating sometimes. Once a dentist tried to pull my wisdom tooth and I think she fractured my jaw. You really have to have the right person doing the work!

    • OMG! That’s terrible! I hope your jaw was okay after that.

  2. Never heard of this product, but I’m glad to know about it! Since we only have one set of teeth, I’ve definitely learned over the last few years the importance of taking good care of them…thanks for sharing your experience!

    • Absolutely. People just don’t realize how important flossing is. I never cared when I was younger, but I’m paying the price now.

  3. This is the first time I heard about this procedure.It sounds easier than spending lot more time at dentist clinic.
    #ProductReviewParty

    • It is much easier, but pointless if it doesn’t work. I guess we’ll see how it goes 🙂

  4. I too can relate, the crappy Ortho I had left mine on way too long, fractured several teeth removing my braces, which I only needed for 6 months and not the 6 years I had them to help bring tooth down and fix an overbite. Turns out they damaged the tooth they were to help bring down and all the other stuff. Needless to say mine are a mess 🙁

    Thanks for sharing I need to check into this! #ProductReviewParty #112

    • OMG! That’s awful! Wow. I would have probably sued. I’m sure that cost you a ton of money too. I’m sorry that you to you.

  5. Wow, so interesting. I’ve never heard of this. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  6. I hope you have changed dentist. Thus sounds shocking.I had caries problem during my pregnancy and I read up thoroughly during that time.
    One of the main reasons for Poor teeth and gums is vitamin D deficiency.After taking regular Vitamin D I am happy to report that I have had no problem for the last 4 years

  7. Omg I hinstky never heard of any of this but I’m glad I now know!!! Sounds like a great options to stay out of the densest office though that’s for sure!

  8. Wow, never heard about this procedure. Well good thing is you’re getting your teeth taken care of. #ProductReviewParty

  9. Olivia Olivia

    I am a dental hygienist and am just starting to recommend this product to my patients and I appreciate your honest feedback. I personally will only recommend the trays to patients to help reduce Biofilm (plaque) and bleeding. I would not attempt to regrow bone with this product. I feel they set your expectations too high with this product. It is an amazing product but, when you take the training they do tell you that it would take well over a year, maybe several years to regrow bone, so this should be clearly communicated to patients when they are told about the treatment. Perio Protect is not a quick fix, rather a long term use product to assist in managing a chronic disease. I am concerned though that you are getting your teeth cleaned every six months, because periodontal patients should have a periodontal maintenance cleaning a minimum of every 90 days or three months, as that is how long it takes for the inflammation to start doing damage and destroy bone and gum- so if you only go every six months, there is three months where damage is being done. My advice to you would be to increase the frequency of your cleanings, continue with the perio gel and consider periodontal treatment. I know it is not easy financially and can be hard to accept mentally having a chronic illness, but by staying on top of it, you keep your whole body healthy, not just your teeth. Thanks again for your honest review and all the best !

    • Thank you so much for your insightful comment! My hygienist also said I should come in for a cleaning every 3 months. But stupid insurance barely covers perio-maintenance every 6 months, so without the insurance coverage, it is unfortunately not an option for me. I am still using the periogel by itself, but I can see the tartar coming back now. I have some dental tools that I use to scrape it off manually and I’m hoping that it will help between cleanings. I really appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you again for your comment.

  10. Hawkeye Hawkeye

    I use an ionic tooth brush, which keeps the tartar off the teeth. I use Soladey by day, and Dr. Tungs at night.

    Tartar is held onto teeth via an electric charge; the ionic toothbrush reverses that charge, allowing tartar to fall off. As such, one should only use the lightest touch with the brush; no need to “scrub.”

    Instead of toothpaste, i mix a squirt or two of Nature’s Answer “PerioBrite Cleanse” with filtered water in a shot glass 4/5 full, and top it up with 3% hydrogen peroxide solution. Usually i have a little of this solution left over when i finish brushing; i keep it and use it as a base for the next time i brush (i treat whatever’s left in the shot glass as “water”, and repeat the formula above to mix up the next shot glass).

    Anything which kills bad bacteria also kills beneficial bacteria, so i also use oral probiotics, like “Great Oral Health Chewable Advanced Oral Probiotics” or Life Extension’s “Advanced Oral Hygiene.” This is the best way to keep the bad bacteria in check.

    I don’t have loose teeth, tartar, nor bleeding gums, and haven’t had a cleaning in years.

    • Thank you for the ideas. At this point, I’m willing to try anything. I am definitely going to look up these products that you mentioned 🙂

  11. Hawkeye Hawkeye

    I forgot to mention that i also use a tongue scraper about two or three times daily (it helps to reduce bacteria in the mouth). All the gunk one scrapes off is bacteria!

    For a “mouthwash” i’ll use either a sip of whiskey (which i’ll swish around just like commercial mouthwash) or a bit of baking soda (usually i just wet a fingertip and place it on a small 1.5 inch condiment dish of baking soda which i keep in my medicine cabinet; it mixes with saliva and i swish it around for a couple minutes before spitting it out.) The alkalinity can kill or at least slow down bacteria and it neutralizes their acidic excretions. The alcohol in the whiskey has a much stronger antibacterial effect than the alkalinity in the baking soda.

    I only use whiskey “as needed,” and not necessarily daily. Since antibacterial mouthwash kills good bacteria too, there’s a judgement call as to whether it’s useful at any given time. I only use it if i think the bad bacteria may have overgrown the beneficial, and want to “nuke” my oral landscape and replant with beneficials. If i think the beneficials have the upper hand, using a mouthwash may do more harm than good. It may be better to just use the probiotics, to shore up the good guys. When i do use mouthwash, i try to use it long before taking oral probiotics. When i’m rushed and don’t have the time, i’ll at least rinse my mouth out with clear water before taking the probiotics, so as to remove as much residual mouthwash as possible.

    At night, i dissolve about an eighth teaspoon of xylitol (aka Birch sugar) in my mouth and swish it around for a couple minutes. Xylitol helps to harden teeth, and kill unfriendly bacteria. There are two main commercial sources: corn and birch. I prefer birch (and it’s sustainably harvested, in case you’re wondering), but it’s more expensive. Use only pure xylitol (there are xylitol sweeteners on the market which are cut with other ingredients).

    Another use of xylitol is as a nasal spray or in a neti pot. It can help prevent or lessen the severity of colds and flu. This page gives a formula for both:

    http://quanta-gaia.org/health/coldsAndFlu.html#NasalWash

    One important note: Xylitol is very toxic to dogs; they don’t metabolize it the way humans do. It can kill them, so be careful with it if you have dogs.

  12. Krista Unser Krista Unser

    I am also a hygienist and agree with 3 month recare, it’s imperative with maintaining and controlling periodontal disease. Regarding bone regeneration with perio protect… I have personally witnessed it on my own patients, it’s amazing to help patients hold on to their natural teeth longer than they would have with out the product. It is a lot of work and dedication for sure but if used regularly with shorter 3 mth Recaro, it works!

  13. Krista Unser Krista Unser

    If you are not in the dental field I am very impressed at your knowledge and agree with most everything you said. 🙂

  14. Hi Olivia!My name is Marina. Thank you for your comment.I am a RDH too, and I am very interesting in PerioProtect trays option. I never tried it before, so will appreciate your experience

  15. Hi Krista! Thank you for your feedback,may I ask you some questions about this treatment option. I am a dental hygienist too.Agree with everything you said : 3 mo recall and consistent / correct home care is essential but not always enough. It is already a success if no more bone loss and restricted bacterial load/growth.

  16. Hi and thank you for posting your review. Im starting to have some gum pockets too, they are 4-7mm in range and I want to get on top of them and heal them. So Im looking into the LANAP method. It seems not much worse than a regular deep cleaning. But its supposed to reverse bone loss and heal your gums. Have you heard of this procedure?

  17. Earlene Greene Earlene Greene

    The looseness of your teeth is the biggest concern to me. It doesn’t sound like you have severe bone loss on all your teeth? Often the reason for looseness (tooth mobility) has more to do with your bite (the way your upper and lower teeth fit together), and whether or not you are grinding your teeth in your sleep. If that has any merit, you need to look into having a Biteguard (nightguard) made. Have one professionally made and fitted-not one you get at the drug store. When made and fitted correctly, these things can have an amazing effect on tightening loose teeth. We often see patients with moderate mobility have 0 mobility within a period of a few weeks. Has any dentist looked at your bite/wear? If not, find one who does. Again, this is almost always a night-time issue. Our teeth rarely touch together during the day. However, a lot of us will clench and grind at night. Could possibly cause you symptoms=waking with headaches, stiff neck and non restful sleep. Good luck!

    • Thank you for your thoughtful insight. I used invisalign about 2 years ago and still wear the retainers overnight. The invisalign was to close up the spaces in my teeth. However the bone loss has been a problem for longer than that. I’m actually going to a periodontist next month to consult regarding surgery. I’m really not sure what else I can do at this point.

  18. Ken Jandoo Ken Jandoo

    I’m a general dentist near Toronto, Canada and have been using Perio Protect in my practice for the last 5 years with good results. It WORKS when used as directed and has saved many of my patients thousands of dollars in gum surgery – it is not guaranteed to restore lost bone but definitely reduces the biofilm, inflammation and bleeding. I have also seen it firm up some slightly loose teeth but if your tooth is beyond a certain mobility then there’s little that can be done short of splinting them to another one. One thing I noted in your account is the use of Vibramycin. According to when I took the Perioprotect protocol course Vibramycin is only used at THE BEGINNING of treatment during the first 2-3 weeks to control the initial inflammation. After that the vibramycin has little effect as the dose is too small to have a antimicrobial effect. I would suggest you stop the vibramycin altogether and use the Periogel only. I hope your oral health improves!

    • Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I’m glad to hear that is has been successful for your patients. I’m curious though, if the vibramycin is only used in the beginning, what helps with stabilizing the tooth mobility?

  19. Mopseymouse Mopseymouse

    I have been using perio protect for 4 months now and my7 & 8 pockets have improved to 3-5, so it does work for that. I have not noticed any improvement in the one “wiggler” I have. My teeth are whiter and my entire mouth feels better. I am determined to stick with this and avoid further bone loss. My cleaning went much smoother also. I agree to every 3 months cleaning-floss every day, brush with baking soda and peroxide-even rinse with peroxide. Wish this stuff was available 20 years ago!

    • That is fantastic! I agree with you about the cleanings going easier. For me the tartar improved but the staining took forever to remove. Are you using it with the tetracycline?

  20. Ken Jandoo Ken Jandoo

    When your teeth are very loose due to advanced gum disease most time there’s truly little that can be done to improve them. The only method that MAY improve the prognosis is to reduce inflammation and bacteria buildup (Perioprotect, good oral hygiene at home), splint them to other stronger teeth (like putting a broken bone in a cast) and reduce them completely out of the forces of biting by grinding them down gently so no pressure is put on them (like using crutches instead of walking on a broken leg)
    If all that is done successfully, sometimes teeth will firm up. Gum surgery with bone grafting can improve the bone loss but in itself it will not improve loose teeth.
    AND
    To make it even more complicated occasionally severe gum disease will get into the nerve system of the tooth and cause a synergistic infection – often times we may perform a root canal on an affected tooth along with gum surgery to stabilize a slightly loose tooth.
    Again for any specifics regarding your own situation please contact your dentist, this is for general knowledge purposes only.
    Cheers

  21. Anna Ogden Anna Ogden

    I totally feel your pain… I have been struggling with bad pockets for 15 years now (I am 40). Be aware that periodontists often oversell pocket reduction surgery (osseus) as well as LANAP. I tried both (and they were awful, sorry but they were). A year after each treatment my pockets were still 6mm. And both treatments removed a ton of tissue from my mouth. I wish I could offer a better review of them.

    The only thing that seems to have helped my mouth to some degree is a change in diet. It really seemed to help with inflammation and pain. I cut out processed foods, sugar, and any sticky carbs.

    • Wow that really sucks. I haven’t had the surgery but after hearing your horror story I don’t think I’ll get it. Are your pockets better now since changing your diet?

  22. Teresa Teresa

    I just came from the dentist today and he strongly recommended the PerioProtect. His version is $1800 for the trays. I assumed that was with the stuff you needed to put in them but now I’m not so sure. I haven’t read the reviews yet but there is a product on Amazon that seems to be the same type of thing. I might try that before I shell out $1800 that I really can’t afford. Thank you for reviewing this!

    • Really? I’d be interested to hear about what you found on Amazon. Can you post or email me the link?

    • Thanks for the link. It definitely looks interesting. I wonder if it helps with receding gums. Please let me know how the peroxide treatment works for you. I’m willing to try anything! ☺️

  23. This is what I’m currently doing, ( peroxide in water pik) I’m also taking a liquid supplement called Drynaria, it’s said to aid in the re-growth of Alveolar bone, there are some pretty convincing ‘white paper ‘studies done online. I was told I have 6mm pockets all the way around, Dentist wanted to pull all my teeth, No way in hell I’ll allow that! Not going down with out a fight.

  24. Jason Jason

    Thank you for writing this. I just received a promotional email from my dental company about PerioProtect and came to the internet to get more information. I related to everything that you’ve experienced about periodontal struggles (funny how my dental company refers to PP as “affordable” then mentions a payment plan….)

    I, too, believe my gum disease battles of the past 15+ years (two scaling-and-root-planings so far; yippee!) stem from the 3 long years that I wore braces in junior high/high school (how could it not, when I don’t remember flossing once during that time?). I also had a dentist who somehow never clearly conveyed to me/made me understand that it’s the gums of the teeth that have to be cared for to achieve mouth health. I had to have maxillofacial surgery in the middle of my three years of braces, which is why I had to wear braces that long. No flossing for three years and no one back then (mid-80s) was concerned about my gum health?? The thing is: I’ve been told by dentists since then that you can NOT regrow the bone once it’s been lost, so it seems to be a contradiction on PP’s part to claim that or it’s, at the very least, a disagreement amongst dental professionals.

    I found a rinse online called PerioShield that I’ve been using for several months which, at least at my last dental appt (just scheduled my next one), reportedly helped somewhat (in conjunction with flossing, “Soni-caring,” “Water-Piking,” and rubber-tipping; yes, my routine has become long) reduce pocket sizes. The down side is that PerioShield can stain/discolor your teeth, which I have noticed (however, not the dark brown/black that you’ve experienced with PerioProtect). I guess I could look into whitening, but that looks so fake to me so I just have my gray smile (I’m 47 so no one wants me anyway….).

    I’m sure when I go in to my next dental appt that I’ll get the sales pitch about PerioProtect. Maybe I’ll simply print out your excellent first-person review and just hand it to my dentist and say, “How about you read this first and then we’ll talk?” That said, a great friend and former teacher of mine from when I was 12 just had to have ALL of her teeth pulled this summer (yes; her entire mouth) and is enduring a lot of pain as well as still trying to get dentures that fit correctly. I do not want to go through that agony. Really don’t know what the answer is to prevent getting to that point definitively, though. Sounds like the jury is still out on PerioProtect.

    • Wow! Thank you for your thoughtful comment. If the PerioProtect is to help reduce your pockets, then it could definitely help. But I went in thinking it would help with my loose teeth at my dentist’s suggestion, and in that case I was sorely disappointed. I’d love to hear what your dentist has to say if you bring this to him. Please let me know!

  25. I am sorry to tell you, gum surgery did not work for me, very expensive and painful. The dentist takes the tissue from the roof of your mouth, ouch! I am very fed up with the whole dentistry scene, I hardly go to the dentist, my gums have receded more, but I still have most of my teeth and I am 67 years old. When I do go to the dentist office, the hygienist is amazed that my teeth are still in my mouth. Thanks for the review.
    Darline

  26. Heidi Sun-Haley Heidi Sun-Haley

    I am sorry that you had such problems with Perio Protect. I am a dentist, and I tout it in in my office as a good way to reduce pockets and bleeding, to help hold on to the teeth for longer. Most of my patients that have been using it for awhile also have a side effect of extremely white teeth. The product is good in some circumstances. However, I agree with another commenter that the dentist upsold you with it, making claims that were not necessarily justified. There is no guarantee of mobility firming up. Your best best is splinting and religious cleaning. Even perio surgery unfortunately will not help if they are all mobile. Not to mention, you would be out thousands of dollars. Remarkably enough, if you do wait to do your surgery till they become looser, the surgery will have even a less promising result. If worse comes to worse and you do end up losing teeth to perio, I would suggest doing implants as long as your home maintenance regimen continues to be of high quality.

    • Thank you so much for your comment. I appreciate your insight. I do get religious cleanings and have been seen my a periodontist who said to just monitor my teeth for now. I will definitely take your advice if they become looser.

  27. Noreen Noreen

    Thank you so much for this information. My periodontist has recommended these perio trays and I would consider them but the cost is VERY high. He has quoted me $1200.00 per tray !! So to get both – upper and lower – would be $2400.00. There is most likely no insurance coverage for this so all is out of pocket. I would be more willing to pay the lower fee you paid. It seems like my doc uses these kinds treatments as a profit center to make as much cash as possible without having to accept insurance payment which is usually reduced. I have already had other treatments over the years including medications, surgery and laser treatments. Pocket depth has been reduced but bone loss is present and does not regenerate.

    • Ouch!! That is crazy. It sucks to think someone you should trust would try to gouge you like that. Maybe you could look around for someone else.

  28. Stacey Stacey

    I love my PerioProtect! It reduced my pockets and all pain from any inflammation. If you have mobile teeth, you should look into LANAP

  29. Richard Richard

    I have used Periogel and the trays for about 2 years or more. Initially, I bought into the antibiotic, but of late, just use the trays and gel……(at a cost of $15.00 per tube at my dentist’s office). Try and do it in the morning and night.
    Backing that up, I use standard G.U.M. brushes, dipped into a small cup solution of 50% Hydrogen Peroxide 3% , (Available for about a dollar,) and water….as straight up 3% has been found too strong for regular use in the mouth.

    Along with regular brushing and flossing, the results have been consistently positive, with no more bleeding or growth in existing gum pockets…and in some cases, reduction in the depth of the pockets. (The greater your comittment, the better the results!

    • This is fantastic! I’m totally going to try that

  30. Anna Garner Anna Garner

    I have learned well from this group. Almost every post adds something I needed to know.

    I, too, have used the 50/50 3% hydrogen peroxide as a mouthwash with good results during the past year. I am now on the perio protect system through my local dentist. So far I cannot complain about costs or care. I am using the perio trays and the 1.7% gel per the dentist’s directions. I only used the antibiotic for the first 4 days per dentist’s recommendation.

    If my teeth are looking more like old ivory than white porcelain, I will use my stronger homemade gel whitening. The 3% hydrogen peroxide at 1.7% is 2/3 strength. I measure hydrogen peroxide as 1 part water to 3 parts hydrogen peroxide. I warm the solution to 105 degrees – 144 degrees Fahrenheit and add 2 grams of plain gelatin. Stir as you add the gelatin and set the container in the fridge for a couple of hours. You will have your gel for occasionally brightening up your smile. Your 4 ounces of gel will keep its strength if you store it in a cool dark place.

  31. L Conley L Conley

    How is your treatment going? I have an appointment soon to get started on this product. Would love to hear from you.

    • I actually stopped using the product. I just see my dentist regularly and brush and floss daily. Let me know how the perio protect works for you?

  32. It looks like you live in the Phoenix area. I have a Phoenix location and a Peoria location. I offer free consultations. You should come in and see me. I am the number one provider of perio trays in the world, and I was the first dentist in the world licensed to perform LANAP. The reason you didn’t get good results with the perio trays is because you didn’t get good impressions (Not your fault). You also were supposed to wear them 4 times per day, but you were too lazy to take them to work with you so you wore them 3 times back to back at night (kinda your fault and not really your fault). Your dentist should have told you that it’s not the amount of time that you wear the trays that is effective… it’s the frequency, and it needs to be spaced out. At the end of 15 minutes, you aren’t killing any bacteria; you are only whitening your teeth. When you would wear them 3 times in a row back to back, all you were doing on the 3rd and 4th wear time was whitening! You may as well have only been wearing them 2 times per day, because that’s the only benefit you were getting. You need to put a minimum of 2 hours between wear times. I would have insisted that you take the trays to work with you and put about 3 to 4 hours in between each wear time. Come in for a free consultation. I would be happy to help you save your teeth. Gordon Wilson, DDS. http://www.TLC4Gums.com

    • Thank you for the tips. I wish I could say I was whitening my teeth, but I was actually getting major stains from the medicine 🙁 But I do wish I had all this information previously. I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and offer this advice! I may come visit you at your office 🙂

  33. Shayla Shayla

    I’m also interested…how is the drynaria working for your gums? Any luck with bone regeneration?

  34. Michael Swartz Michael Swartz

    I’m 70 and started using Perio Protect in early 2011. Never took good care of my teeth most of my life and had a lousy diet to boot, so my teeth and gums were rarely in decent shape. Frankly, I’m surprised I’m still breathing with no serious health problems except for my teeth. I’ve lost 8 teeth in the back of my mouth, including 2 or 3 in the past seven years using Perio Protect. Used it 4 times a day for a few months (spaced out during the day), then three times a day, then twice a day, and now once a day for the past few years. The vibramycin turned my tongue black after a few weeks, so I discontinued it. I do it at night after flossing with Glide or, more recently, drTung’s. My results have been very good. My pockets have tightened up and the 3 hygienists (same dentist) I’ve had over this time have had an easier time cleaning and have commented positively about my gum health and the relatively small amount of plaque. Recently, I’ve lengthened the time between cleanings from 4 months to 5 months. Based on my good results, I am somewhat surprised to find so many negative results on the Internet.

    • I’m so glad that it is working for you! That’s awesome 😀

  35. Forgot about this post and just came across it again while researching my new e-book. I have only had a few patients who had the staining like you did. It’s easily removed by the hygienist at a cleaning appointment. It sounds like they used vibramycin liquid instead of vibramycin syrup. The liquid stains your teeth, whereas the syrup doesn’t. My offer still stands for you to come in for a free consultation. In all honesty, though… I have been practicing dentistry for over 25 years now, and the Perio Protect system is hands down the absolute best method of controlling this condition.

  36. Rainbow Rainbow

    Hi, thank you for sharing your experience.
    I just want to share my experience with the products of the Calcium Therapy Institute. I have ordered a home care kit. So far I can tell using Oral Cal mouth rinse and Calcium Chips have helped tighten my gums a bit, and my teeth seem to look whiter, too.
    I don’t know how much it will help in any case, but I do appreciate the result I get from it.
    How far it will help, I don’t know.
    Let‘s always try our best.

  37. Aj gray Aj gray

    Hello I see you posted this 2 years ago. I was wondering how things are now since this has been the first REAL review iveI found on thr product. Yesterday I went to the dentist for the first time in 15 years(that’s really bad I know) and was recommended this product. Luckily I don’t have loose teeth but he’s recommending it for the bacteria I have in my gums. Along with a deep cleaning. Luckily too all I need is the $26 gel too. Unfortunately though here in California in 2018, its freaking over $900 for the trays. They have payment options but there’s still a hefty down payment along with the payments being almost a hundred dollars a month. I only make minimum wage which isn’t much when you have plenty of bills and a child to take care of. So before I break my pockets I am trying to see if it is even worth it.

    • I stopped using the product a while ago. But I have heard good things about the trays helping people with severe gum bacteria. If it’s bad enough and you can afford it, it’s worth a try. But honestly if you are just diligent about brushing and flossing and regular dentist visits you can probably save your money. That’s what I’m doing now.

  38. Bill Bill

    I will be fitted for the Perio Protect in two weeks. I would like to mention that I believe I have done everything right in taking care of my teeth all of my life. I am over 55 and have seen the dentist twice a year since I was a kid. I have flossed every night for the last 35 years. I have been told that my brushing may have been too aggressive on my gums. My wife believes the gum recession is hereditary. I am glad that at least people believe the Perio treatment may work. I was skeptical. I am specifying my tooth care to let others know that even doing everything right didn’t guarantee me a good outcome.

    • I hope it works great for you. Let me know how it goes!

  39. Jay Jay

    Wow, they took 4 tries to do my top tray also at western dental in Ca. Took 2 tries to get my bottom and I had to wait 1 month and 2 weeks before they even finished my top and told me to pick up, so I had been using only my bottom tray for a month and a half and my trays costed a lot more. Costed me almost $1300. Now I feel so ripped off and I will be making payments for 2 years and still have to pay $25 for each periogel when I need a refill. Western Dental rip people off like crazy, everything is way over priced! Wish I went somewhere else now. Loved your detailed infromation by the way and thanks a lot!

    • That sucks. I’m sorry to hear it also took you several tries to get the molds right. You are going to keep using the product though right?

  40. Rick Bizzoco Rick Bizzoco

    I have quite a different set of comments. Perioprotect is a brilliant addition to having your teeth pulled. That it what my dentist (periodontist) did after trying tight cleaning regimen, cleaning every 3 months. I use strong at home treatments with floss,fluoride anddental detergent to kill extra bacteria (Cepacol). My cost was $200 higher than yours and I consider it the best investment (with returns) since the arrival of sliced bread. Cleaning did nothing, Cepacol was a very useful addition (don’t drink coffee and then use Cepacol and vice versa. Don’t use Cepacol and then drink coffee. Your teeth will be stained. I checked and they preciptiate when mixed together and stain your teeth. Back to the perio trays. For a trivial $$ investment, I was told by my hygenist that my teeth are getting better, the deep pockets 5 mm have gone down to 3 mm and 2mm and told, keep doing what you are doing. Twice a day 15 minutes. Also, I am a dentist’s dream, finally a compliant patient. My gums are healthy, my teeth no longer will need to be extracted and there is a dream treatment. I would be willing to pay anything to get my pulled molar back, but it’s too late now. I learned about Perio Protect and Periogel by doing my own on line reading, but it was because I did not wish to have any more tooth extractions. So I just kept reading and came across the process. Here is why it works. Based on your diet and the space between gums and teeth, food sticks (especally starchy glucose containing food) It is used as dinner by pathogenic non-oxygen using bacteria that live below the gum line. It’s ieven worse if you eat hard candy or chew sugar-containing gum. These pathogens don’t like and are killed by oxygen. In the perioprotect – Periogel treatment, oxygen -O2, molecular oxygen is released below the gum line and kills pathogens and changes the mixture of microorganisms that can survive from pathogens to Friendly bacteria (non-pathogens). It is because of the overall approach trays to keep the Periogel in place and undiluted by the release of saliva that therapeutically your below the gumline spaces have a chance to repair. It is not intended to repair bone or even assist in this process. It is only to close off deep pockets. I wish you luck with bone replacement, it is a difficult issue. Rick Bizzoco

  41. Marty Marty

    I have used Perio Gel for several years. My problem is that I am very inconsistent. But, when I use the product several days in a row, I feel solid improvement in my gums. I experience a great reduction in gum inflammation, and my teeth feel, look, and are very clean and bright. I think that this is huge in the world of gum disease. It is my guess that expecting new bone growth, as a result of using this product, may be expecting to much. But for a great clean feeling and huge reduction in gum inflammation, this product works!

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